You're right, there are really over 20 million, if counted by the standards of any other religion. On the other hand, the 8 million figure is active PUBLISHERS, including many unbaptized children and adults who have been hanging on the fence for many years, so it's really less from that perspective. It's hilarious but ask any JW how many baptized JWs there are and probably 99 percent would say 8 million. Fact is, the figure has never been publicly revealed.
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I don't believe there are 8 million JWS
by Hotpepper inwith all the closing of halls.
and all the csa cases.
and all the jws not only slipping out the back door.
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2020--Civil Unrest--Food Distribution Pause--Computer Security! (as of 2020-11-05)
by Atlantis in3 letters:.
1. civil unrest.
2. food distribution pause.
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neat blue dog
#metoo
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2020-10-Publications Approved For Discard! (as of 2020-10-29)
by Atlantis in2020-10--publications approved for discard.. .
reply below and i'll meet you back at the pm breakroom for coffee and a link.. .
petra!.
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neat blue dog
"Jehovah's Witnesses in the Twentieth Century"
lol that didn't age well š
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2020 Annual Meeting of JW's
by HiddenPimo inso i doubt out of all the pimo's someone hasn't been able to leak that they had the annual meeting.
does this mean that there was not one for the first time in jw history.
thoughts?.
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neat blue dog
They were probably relieved they didn't have to whip up another mundane "new understanding" of an obscure scripture at the last second to be the centerpiece of the thing.
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What`s wrong With American Politics ?
by smiddy3 inwhat`s wrong with american politics ?.
96% of american people who got off there arse to vote, chose hillary clinton to be president of the united states of america over donald trump.. and the electoral college overode the will of the majority of the people who bothered to vote , and gave the office of president to donald trump who was the 2nd choice, an also ran , of the will of the people.. it`s a furphy to say that some larger blue/red states can dictate to smaller red/blue states or vice versa to rig the elections ,simply because people can, and do change there preferences in any one state whether it be traditionally red or blue.. both democrats and republicans are both guilty and responsible for the gerrymander that is the electoral college.. there i`ve said it ,.
nobody else seems to be able to say it how it is ,.
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neat blue dog
96% what the heck are you talking about? š Hillary won the popular vote by less them 3 mil. out of almost 66 mil.
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Eliminate the Oil Industry?
by Anony Mous ina lot of countries are on the side of eliminating the oil industry altogether as well as zero-emission alternatives like nuclear power.. in the us, biden has promised to eliminate all federal lands oil production when he takes power in 2021 (30% of the united states) as well as native american tribal lands which account for 8 percent of all oil, 9 percent of all natural gas, and 6 percent of all natural gas liquids from 96,000 wells (10% of the total wells in the us).. in europe, oil and gas production has been largely eliminated except for the nordic countries and the uk (which the eu recently lost access to), germany is funding a major oil pipeline as is china from russia and russian-controlled portions of ukraine, even after trump cut off all builders from russian oil pipelines, the russian government is now trying to build the pipeline themselves with potential disastrous results.. venezuela's economy collapsed largely due to the government taking over and eliminating the oil industry companies.. in the mean time, control for most non-us energy sources is now wholly dependent on russian and middle eastern governments.. california and germany eliminated oil-based energy sources and now mandate 30% of their power from 'green' wind and solar alternatives.
germany energy costs now hover around 25c/kwh and california is not far behind with 16c/kwh both experiencing rolling blackouts in major cities and importing 60% of mostly coal and gas energy from their neighbors.. the world currently has 300 years worth of oil at the current rates of usage which have stagnated due to improved efficiencies.
co2 emissions in the us have dropped in the last 3 years for the first time in decades despite (or because) reduced oil and gas regulations.. do you think given the above facts, eliminating the oil industry is a good thing?
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neat blue dog
This video explains it well:
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Biden Voter Fraud Admission
by Simon inhe's either admitting that they are relying on voter fraud, or he's a decrepit senile old fart who's unfit to be president.. which is it?.
did he also just claim that they committed fraud to get obama elected?
what a joke.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma8a2g6ttp0.
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neat blue dog
Obviously a senile moment but still hilarious
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Always Obey
by neat blue dog inthe life story in the latest wt has a running theme that keeps popping up: if the organization tells you to do something, you do it.
this culminates in the following anecdote:.
we were staying in abrotherās home right next to a kingdom hall.. .
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neat blue dog
The life story in the latest WT has a running theme that keeps popping up: If the organization tells you to do something, you DO it. This culminates in the following anecdote:
We were staying in a
brotherās home right next to a Kingdom Hall.
. . . the circuit overseerās wife pre-
pared a bath for us. . . To my
surprise, the circuit overseerās wife had
placed them outside the house in direct
view of the Kingdom Hall where brothers
were helping with the preparations for the
assembly. I asked her for a curtain of some
kind. She brought me a sheet of transpar-
ent plastic! . . . I thought
to myself: āThe brothers are too busy to
notice that I am taking a bath. And if I donāt
bathe, they will be offended. Letās get on
with it!ā So I did.I don't know but a strange example to include to say the least. Bathsheba anyone? š
Bonus:
There's a picture of her and her husband with a group of ALL sisters, but they put a little arrow just in case you didn't know which one was Harvey š¤£
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"Great Crowd" important detail glossed over
by neat blue dog inthe latest study wt gives another glowing report from rutherford's time:.
in his talk, brother rutherford identified those whowould make up the āgreat multitudeā (king james ver-sion), or āgreat crowd,ā mentioned at revelation 7:9. un-til then, this group was thought to be a secondary heav-enly class that was less faithful.
brother rutherford usedthe scriptures to explain that the great crowd are notchosen to live in heaven, but they are christās othersheep who will survive āthe great tribulationā.
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neat blue dog
The latest study WT gives another glowing report from Rutherford's time:
In his talk, Brother Rutherford identified those who
would make up the āgreat multitudeā (King James Ver-
sion), or āgreat crowd,ā mentioned at Revelation 7:9. Un-
til then, this group was thought to be a secondary heav-
enly class that was less faithful. Brother Rutherford used
the Scriptures to explain that the great crowd are not
chosen to live in heaven, but they are Christās other
sheep who will survive āthe great tribulationā. . .
According to an eyewit-
ness, over half of the some 20,000 peo-
ple in the audience stood. Then Broth-
er Rutherford declared: āBehold! The
great multitude!ā That was followed by
thunderous cheering. Those who stood
realized that they were not chosen for
heavenly life.But what they fail to emphasize is that this declaration was demonstrably false, even by JWs own teachings. These people were NOT the great Crowd as they believe it to be, as they pretty much are all dead by now without "coming out" of the great tribulation into the new world. So this was a lie, along with Rutherford's words that only "weeks" remained for the old world. Of course that doesn't matter, as it is still just around the corner, as the article goes on to say:
With the great tribulation just ahead,
it would be encouraging for us to review
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Has Anyone Gotten Disfellowshipped Here and For What??
by minimus insex issues seem to be the number one reason but apostasy is right up there too.
even if you werenāt disfellowshipped , do you know why some people you know were disfellowshipped?
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neat blue dog
Ones I've seen, for statistical purposes:
Adultery
Fornication and Drugs
Fornication and Drugs
Fornication
Fornication
Fraud
Fornication
Apostacy
Apostacy
Fornication
Fornication
Fornication
Fornication
Apostacy
Apostacy
Reviling
Adultery
Fornication
Fornication
Apostacy
Drugs
Fornication
Fornication
Fornication
Fornication
Fornication and Drugs
Fornication
Fornication
Fornication
Drugs
There's some variety, but seems to be a lot of the fornicatin'.